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James
Van Praagh
Spiritualist Medium and Counselor
Please visit James
Van Praagh's Home Page for more details.
An Excerpt from the Inrterview with James
Van Praagh
by Tatiana Elmanovich:
T:
If we talk about death, we have to be sad--it's
tradition. We have to grieve, and we have to cry. And the biggest miracle
of your demonstrations is that everybody is, at the end, happy--lifted
up and energized.
J: Very true, very true. And why is that? Well, I think the reason why
people are happy is because first what I do is, I provide proof. I provide
evidential details of their loved ones, whether it's names, or places,
or facts that I would not know about them, and it proves that this information
is coming from somewhere. And it's such specific information, that it
can only be known from the person who passed away in spirit, and the person
who is receiving the information. Also, people have often said, "Well,
maybe you are doing mind reading." This is not true, because I have
brought through information for people who were sitting in the room, and
they did not understand who I was talking about or the names I was bringing
through. They went home and asked their relatives, and it made total sense.
So it proves indeed that there is no mind reading here. So really what
I do is facilitate proof of life after death, that we do leave this shell.
Because we are all energy anyway; life is the life-force, so energy. We
are made up of energy, and you can't kill energy. How can you kill energy?
You can't do it. So, it just shows you that energy moves on. And I'm able
to attract that energy again to come back, and they impress me with thoughts,
feelings, emotions, and I'm able to get to a place where I'm just silent,
and I'm receiving these things, these feelings and emotions, and I'm able
to give them to people. And it makes them feel very good. And the people
in the room, even if they don't get a personal message themselves, they
feel the strength of that emotion, the strength of the proof of life after
death. And indeed, we all are common, we all have this in common, don't
we -- the death experiences. So we can relate to it, and in turn that
makes us feel better and happy.
T:
It is true. And that happens, really, the effect of energizing. I am not
earning big money. But the next day after I attended your demonstration,
I had an astrology customer. She wanted to pay me and I asked $80. She
gave me the check, I thanked her and put the check aside. When she was
gone, I discovered that the check was for $150. Vladimir said, "It
happened because you attended Van Praagh's demonstration and you still
had his energy when you did your reading."
J: [Laughing] What's your birth sign?
T:
Leo.
J: You are a Leo! Oh, great. I love Leo. I'm August 23rd. I'm on Leo-Virgo
cusp. I'm zero degree Virgo. My rising is Capricorn, and my Moon sign
is in Sagittarius. And I have four planets in Leo: Mercury, Venus, some
other planets -- I'm not sure which ones they are, Saturn maybe. And everything
of mine is in the Eighth House [according to an astrological terminology,
Eighth House rules death and resurrection], or the Twelfth House [rules
secluded and hidden things, including esoteric teachings and mediumship],
I have a loaded Eighth, and a loaded Twelfth; they're psychic houses.
T:
Absolutely, absolutely.
J: And all my planets are at above horizon, the top of the horizon, which
of course, you know, is for the public. And this is why I'm able
to do this work. 'Cause I was born for this sort of work. I came back
here to do that kind of work.
T:
Absolutely, absolutely.
J: And Brian Hurst was the one that really recognized that in me, that
I had this gift. And I didn't believe him, and sure enough
it seems
like it happened.
T:
But, did you have a teacher to master the energies, because I have been
at Brian's demonstrations, and I had seen many, many great psychics. But
I have not seen such an ability to handle group-energy. It is remarkable.
J: Well, I believe that. Brian started me, but I also sat in development
circle for many years. In development circle we sit together with certain
people, every once a week and you really let spirit work on your energies.
And I think that helped quite a bit. And I really got to tell you that
part of it is, you know, thought is very real. Thoughts are real. And
if you believe in something, and hold to it, and know it is going to happen,
it will manifest. And I knew that this would manifest. I knew it. I just
knew it.
T:
What do you consider more important, to give the message that life is
eternal, what Leslie Flint did, what Brian is doing, or to cleanse the
aura of people who come to your demonstrations? There is a crowd of a
hundred, four hundred, maybe five hundred people at a demonstration; they
all do change, yes?
J: Yes, yes, yes. We all change, yes.
T:
Because of this energizing and cleansing and releasing of fear -- I don't
know, what is more important in your case?
J: Well, it's really both; it goes hand in hand. It's the same thing because
you can't take one away from the other. With Leslie, who I've met many
times, sat with him also, and my mother's come through in the séance room,
with her voice, and it was very incredible. Leslie was one of the best
mediums, physical mediums of our time. And Brian is very good also, his
mental mediumship. And when you bring through evidential details, that
you know, it does release a lot of the problems people have. I will release
with that work, you know, the guilt, that they might have with someone
that passed over. It resolves a lot of personal problems, and they can
move on with their lives. They can see that they're--major
healing takes place there. People often call me healer. And it's very
true, I think I'm a healer. And it helps people to move on, and to realize
that death is just an experience, that we'll see each other again, that
this person can contact us. They were just with us for a certain time,
to learn certain things. We have an obligation to ourselves to live our
lives, and move on; we all have our own paths. And it helps people to
move on to their path, as well.
T:
May I ask one question on regarding--
J: Let me just interrupt you, and maybe this will help you a little bit.
And I don't know what it means, but you talk about the energies. I also
figure, not to pat myself on the head, 'cause I'm not like that. But when
doing television shows one of the most common reactions people have, or
responses, they said they knew I was genuine when they looked in my eyes.
They saw my blue eyes, and they knew that I was sincere and genuine. And
they could feel that even across the television set, they could feel the
energy. And it's very, very common for people: when they see me on the
television, they feel better.
T:
That's fantastic.
J: What's your question?
T:
If we are so dull on the Earth, how do our relatives become so smart in
heaven?
J: Well, because we are asleep on the Earth; we're not aware here. You
know, spirit calls us "the walking dead," on the Earth, the
walking dead. Because many of us live a life where it's very regimented,
it's very black and white. We all live by the senses--our
eyes, smells, the five or six senses. We don't use the other sense of
feeling, emotion, and we don't get in contact with our spiritual selves.
Most people don't. And they really take life for just every day, for "this
is what it is," and "how much money I can make," and "what
position I can get," and they don't really feel the true part of
it, which is the spirit, spiritual and love. And what I go through every
day, I see love. I'm only human too. I mean, I have troubles and I have
frailties and foibles. But I think it's very important that people get
back in touch with love. They do not think only about themselves. I do
believe now that things are changing; there is a change where people are
not looking for outside religions anymore, or outside to fulfill this
need, they go inside. I think more people now are beginning to go into
their inner self. I always say to people, "There's a world inside
you, and it is so more fascinating than the world outside of you."
And I believe that's the reason it's so dull, and most people aren't aware.
They're totally unaware. And when the test's over, of course, the awareness
increases. There's a whole new world, the spirit, and the true world.
T:
Does the spirit world need us?
J: Yes, very much. We both depend upon each other. Because, this is very
interesting, many people think that just because someone passes into spirit
that they're all-knowledgeable, that they have full awareness, and that's
not true. We teach them as well. We might be more involved than someone
in the spirit world. See? They might be not as involved. I've had many
clients that the spirit has come through for, and they said, "Oh,
you helped me. You helped me to move on. You helped me to realize certain
things about love." And they want to thank the person on the Earth.
Because they learned from them. They can see how the person on the Earth
goes through different situations and how they deal with situations, and
have love or forgiveness, and they see that, and they teach them. "Oh,
wow, that's amazing how they did that!" and it teaches them. And
also they can impress us, they can help us. The spirits do help us. We
have our free will, of course, and we have karmic considerations that
they cannot interfere with. We have our karma. They cannot interfere with
it. There are certain experiences we must go through, and as painful as
it is, it's only to learn things, it's only learning. And the spirit people,
it's unfortunate, they have to go through watching us go through this
pain, but they know that in the long run we'll gain from this. But they
can help influence certain things in our lives, like getting jobs, or
money, or whatever, or bringing someone into your life. They can help
with these things. As long as there's no karma involved--they
cannot interfere with the karma.
T:
Thank you, it was a wonderful answer to my question.
J: I hope it answered it! [Laughing] I just go on and on
There are
so many questions, I didn't know which ones you wanted to ask.
T:
Oh, yes, about the person [at a recent demonstration]--a
spirit entity wanted to show you that he had died of cancer, and he did
something to you, and you said, "He gave me the whole thing."
J: What does that mean? Is that what you're asking, what does that mean
when I say they give me it?
T:
Yes, "the whole thing"--was
it something negative? Or in order to show you that it was
J: Yes, I understand. What happens is, when spirits come to me, they will
give me a feeling, a sense of what was wrong with them. I sometimes feel
it physically, and sometimes I don't. It depends on who is communicating,
how the spirit wants to communicate. Sometimes they'll show me, like an
amputee has no leg. And I'll say, "Oh, they were missing a leg."
Or, if they had arthritis very badly [interrupted by phone ringing]--I'm
sorry, I'm just going to answer that. [Returns]
T:
James, I am asking because of readers, not even because of me. Because
many women are very superstitious, they believe that we give negative
thoughts to each other, eat each other's energy, you know. There is between
women endless consideration about who takes energy from whom, who is so
called "spiritual vampire," who is carrying light and who is
spreading darkness. In my country they say, "This woman gave me the
'bad eye' and since that time I have no luck," or something like
that. "She gave her 'bad eye' to my child, and the child has been
sick ever since!"
J: Yes, negativity.
T:
Is it possible that the spirit world also gives us some kind of negativity?
J: Well, yes. Yes, obviously. Because you have to remember that there
are different levels of spirit evolution. In the Bible Jesus says, "My
Father has a house of many mansions." What that means are the various
spirit levels that exist. And we go to that level, which we created, based
upon our love, on our thoughts, feelings, words, and deeds. And just like
on the Earth, there are some very nasty people in the spirit world. They
are on a lower level of evolution, and they might want to go after someone.
Or attack someone, spirit attack. And I do believe that this exists, no
doubt about it. When I do my work, I do protect myself with white light
around me, with Christ's white light of divinity and love. The strongest
words we have in the English language are two words; they're the very
strongest in the energy of the English language--that's
LOVE and GOD. Those two words are the fastest vibrational words we have
in our language. LOVE and GOD. And I always bring love energy around me.
And love, when you have love energy around you, it's like a bright light--shshshshsh!--and
darker forces, or lower forces, cannot handle this light, cannot handle
the light, and they will go away. And I always have to protect myself.
Whenever I do work, I always protect myself, because I don't want to take
on anyone else's stuff. There's no reason to. Yes. But I do believe if
you're true of heart and you're in a good space, and you put yourself
in a good God-like space, divinity. I think that like attracts like, and
you attract only good things.
T:
I would love to, if I had a chance, I would love to translate this into
my languages, Estonian and Russian, because really, your message is worth
being introduced to people over there.
J: I hope you can. Well, the people over there have been suppressed for
so long because of the government. I think when freedoms are taken away
from people, when individuality is pulled away, then that is just awful.
I think that's a sin. And even in this country, with power, and governments
all over -- it's all power and greed. And that's evil. I think that's
not working with the light. Spirits call these people "the walking
dead"! Their vision is very limited. They do not see people of different
races, different colors, different creeds, as the same. And we're all
the same because we've all got life force. We're all living
we're
life force. We all are Gods: each one of us has a spark of God. The outside
might look different. The color might be different--the
complexion, the face, whatever, the stature, the body--but
we're the same inside. And if people realize that more, they could respect
each other more. And if they realize how they treat each other, it'll
come back right to them, because we're connected. Then they would change
their lives. But unfortunately, the governments are so much into greed
and the power, the power, power, power. And unfortunately, the religions
have been involved with power--how
to control the masses. And yet the Catholic Church is one of the most
corrupt organizations around. And it's destroying people's lives. The
monasteries are the wealthiest landowners in the world. And yet they have
so many poor people. Well, they could sell a few of those lands, and they
would help some poor people out. To me, to see the Pope in his beautiful
robes, and the gold, I just don't understand it. It's hypocrisy, it really
is, it's hypocritical. It really is. It doesn't make sense.
T:
The Russian church today is also involved in politics, and over there
they use The Russian church for fanning nationalism, and worse, chauvinism.
If small Germany did what it did being fascist, then what would Russia
do becoming chauvinistic?
J: But you know, people need to believe in something. And they trick people's
minds and have them believing that the government will answer your questions,
and you believe in us. And people just give over everything to them, thinking
it will help them. And they realize that no, it won't. Because it goes
back to self. It goes back to self, and to have people responsible for
themselves. And they're responsible for their own happiness. And no one
else can make them happy but themselves. The secret's in here, inside.
Isn't that right? Do you understand?
T:
Absolutely! This is what all the Russian immigrants are doing here in
America. It is our dish, our cup of tea. Before we were limited to dependency
on the government, and here we learn personal responsibility.
J: Very true, very true.
T:
It is not so much for me, but whoever will read it, that idea of where
is paradise and where is hell? It is an eternal, universal question.
J: We're all looking, where is heaven, where is the spiritual world? We're
all looking at it from the physical point of view: it has to be someplace
physical, it has to be behind the next door. We have to understand, this
is not physical, it's spiritual. The spirit world is inter-dimensional.
It's in us, and it's around us, right here [indicating the heart] and
it's above us and below us. And it's around the Earth world, and it's
above the Earth. And like I said, there are many levels, and you create
the level inside yourself, what you did. You create your own hell, your
own heaven. You go to that place when you die, based upon how you treated
each other, how you loved each other. And you go to a place where there
are people who are on the exact same level that you are. So, if there
are people who are very evil, if you were evil in your lifetime, and say,
you killed someone, then you will go to a place where there are other
people who killed people. You have to live with those people, and that's
the hell. That's what happens...
Read the complete
interview at the Tanika's Books
web site.
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